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| Hdayejr | Long lines at Urban Nights | 0 | Sep 12 2009, 11:32 AM EDT by Hdayejr | ||||
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This was actually a win lose situation. It's good to see the interest in the Arcade, but it kept many from getting in last night. The lines were wrapped around to Ludlow Street near Kinko's. Not my idea of Urban nights, so I went to other venues instead. I just hope the suck economy here doesn't cause this project to be delayed any more. Then again, if we had something like the Arcade back in business, it could help the economy. I just hope the owners have met our retarded mayor. That could be a big problem
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| PaigeMac | Just wondering... | 0 | May 14 2009, 2:00 PM EDT by PaigeMac | ||||
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I'm not in any kind of rush or anything but I was just curious if it would be possible in the future to maybe rent the arcade for a day or a few hours like for a wedding/ reception? I think it is a gorgeous building and that's not something that everyone does. Obviously I would be willing to compensate for the use of it. I heard rumors of re-opening in 2013 or something like that and I don't think I'll be getting married in the next year or two or even three. I was just wondering if I should consider this as a possibility or not. If anyone has any information on this or knows of someone who would and could possibly get me their contact information that would be greatly appreciated.
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| Blogesque | Gotta get it off the chopping block first, but... | 5 | Feb 21 2008, 10:08 AM EST by elwiemo | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 31 2007, 6:31 PM EDT
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remember the price per sq.ft. of downtown real estate. Requiring that any portion of a tenant's space must be devoted to cultural use is a de facto minority tax. Taking culture out of it, denying tenants the right to legally use their expensive space as they see fit will keep them away.
The arts market was tried at Main & Santa Clara; seen how that turned out lately? I can see maybe a few shopfronts on the Arcade's second-floor concourse; that sort of thing has been up there before. As for a "social experimentation area" and so forth, you have got to be kidding. This is downtown Dayton, not the UC Berkely campus. Commerce is what will sustain the Arcade. The whole building will likely be weapons-free via zoning, and I'm pretty sure there's a wi-fi hotspot on Courthouse Square that may be accessible from the Arcade. Putting an access point in the rotunda would give the whole place full coverage. "Performance space" seems vague and kind of unnecessary considering the existing number of concert halls and nightclub stages downtown, but maybe I'm not understanding what you mean. Part of the history museum you describe has long been housed across the street in the old Courthouse, although there's not much to it. I definitely think there should be an official City of Dayton footprint in the Arcade; it's just a question of how large that footprint should be. I think that mixed use by both public and private tenants (at least initially) would be the surest way to kick-start investment. Maybe the first few storefronts on the concourse could be opened up into the kind of classy, city-operated info center that you suggest. There's also the thought that some city offices could be opened to become anchor tenants in the office section at Ludlow and Fourth. The presence of such offices would encourage other tenants, as it would demonstrate active City of Dayton involvement in the Arcade's future.
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| SloshedTurtle | My idea(s): | 0 | Jan 27 2008, 4:44 PM EST by SloshedTurtle | ||||
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I have helped in redevelopment in other cities and I have loved the Arcade since I moved here in 2003. I think it would be a shame to lose it for a parking garage-as has been suggested in the past-and I think it is a valuable piece of history and real estate. I am a social work and urban affairs major at WSU and I have read studies and conducted studies about what people want from the downtown area. A major portion of people to be considered are those who are already downtown everyday due to employment. We need to keep them there for lunch time activities and after work activities. Many of the renovated warehouses and buildings into apartments have done extremely well. If the plans for Ballpark Village go through, and they are going to go through...the Arcade will be an asset. The details in the apartments are not seen in anything modern today and add a special element that the competition does not have. The apartments should be used as apartments-but with security features so that regular people cannot access those floors. I think the offices should be used as offices. The idea of using part of the arcade for community events or shows is a great idea! Area schools can showcase their bands or chorales, for example. This has worked in the past in other areas...and it brings families downtown too! I think that "mom and pop" shops should bring back businesses to the arcade too. It is part of the charm that other centers have. If people downtown have the ability to pickup items from the gift shop and bakery and jeweler and their drycleaning, etc...during the workday or shortly thereafter---they will! Also, if there is a delinquent building that is attached or across the street--I do not remember if there is....that should be developed into parking for the Arcade and it's tenants and helps solve the issue of parking. These are just some thoughts that I think would enhance the Arcade and downtown. Oh- Please-NO boutique hotel!!!!
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| katLlist | I know you think this is a crazy idea... | 0 | Sep 16 2007, 6:37 PM EDT by katLlist | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 16 2007, 6:37 PM EDT
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but maybe would could get university students and professionals involved in a service learning project to create a reality based "Simm City" like version of the Arcade...something that would carry participants through the actual process of what it would take to get redevelopment underway. An interactive website, maybe, that would allow ideas to be tested for community support before embarking on an expensive effort. Let's make the next revival sustainable!
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| Blogesque | Urban Nights tour photos | 0 | Sep 15 2007, 4:36 PM EDT by Blogesque | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 15 2007, 4:36 PM EDT
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For those who weren't able to attend, I got some photos of the Arcade's interior and exterior yesterday:
<a href="http://blogesque.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/dayton-arcade-photos-from-urban-nights/">http://blogesque.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/dayton-arcade-photos-from-urban-nights/</a> BTW, am I the only one who never noticed that there are architectural gargoyles on the Ludlow St. facade? |
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| katLlist | reply | 0 | Sep 1 2007, 3:48 PM EDT by katLlist | ||||
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Maybe I am reading too much into your comments…but I suspect that you believe, like many pessimistic about Dayton, that anyone left in the area must be brain dead. Turning a small part of the Arcade complex into an area that would combine both cultural education and profitable business would draw intelligent people in. It could also help expand the horizons of a curious, but naive portion of the population. Downtowns are meant to be places where people liberate themselves from their isolated communities and intermingle. Yes, commerce is necessary…you’ll get no argument from me there…but commerce can take place anywhere, we need to take advantage of what makes downtown unique…its centrality and its history.
Think a social experiment would only happen in Berkley? Trying turning on the television…reality TV is hot! (not to say good…but popular) People everywhere are interested in social interaction. I am not sociologist…but there are some excellent teachers of sociology in the area. With all of the universities and colleges in the area, I think the potential is here to create something interesting and enlightening without being raunchy. We need an indoor public performance place downtown. Concerts on Courthouse Square aren’t going to happen in extreme weather. It also seems like an indoor venue would promote the enforcement of a proper code of conduct. |
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| katLlist | my vision (continued ....the limit is 2000 characters) | 0 | Aug 5 2007, 6:28 PM EDT by katLlist | ||||
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A social experimentation area with ongoing activities in which people can participate either physically or virtually to make discoveries or realizations about human nature, for example have an experiment where the participants are assigned an identity with a group (e.g the “sneeches”, red squares, blue circles or whatever…not affiliated with any group in the real world but with distinguishing features that make them different from other groups in the experiment) and then asked to participate in a virtual social activity.
A ban on the sale of weapons in the arcade but an area devoted to the study of violent subcultures their affect on society and how to overcome them and another study of the affect of religions on society, both good and bad A wireless internet café. A performance area. NO rollercoasters or other such amusements that would compromise the aesthetics and structurally integrity of the building and undermine its historical significance. |
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| katLlist | my vision (continued..) | 0 | Aug 5 2007, 6:26 PM EDT by katLlist | ||||
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I would like to see an area for an international/cultural market, requiring 10% of each store to be devoted to an explanation of the culture, it’s symbolism, it’s strongest beliefs, geography etc. Allow family businesses to be a part of this (even if not representing a specific recognized culture) if the can provide a history of the family, the business and its traditions (it could become a study in the development of a culture).
An art market with either an open studio for patrons to see the artist working or a visual and verbal representation of the artist working (images, posters or videos). A history museum of the significant events and people of the Dayton area, with information about tours of the historical sites throughout the area, including the Dayton Arcade, and the flood, with books, videos, and interactive displays with stories about the flood and the engineering the prevented future floods, and ideas for future development of the river and the Arcade, maybe a study of the bridges in the area (a hot topic right now). The history of Dayton- both good and bad, the need for Dayton to become educated about the people that live here and transcend the prejudice and fear that prevent them from living together harmoniously, the need for a better understanding of the economic decisions that have been made that lead to the deterioration of some of the city’s buildings and stagnated both its progress and its vitality, the need for an examination of the motivational factors of all of it subcultures- both racial and economic and a thoughtful analysis of where we are headed locally, nationally and globally. |
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| katLlist | My personal visions of the Arcade | 0 | Aug 5 2007, 6:25 PM EDT by katLlist | ||||
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My vision for the Arcade is inspired by the Chicago Cultural center (a beautiful building with coincidentally, two Tiffany domes across from Millennium Park, downtown, which was once slated for demolition, but saved due to public involvement), the D’art Center in Norfolk, Virginia, the Torpedo Factory in Alexandria, VA, Dayton’s International World Affair (as good or better than the international street festival in Adams Morgan in Washington D.C., in my opinion), the Dayton Peace Accord, Urban Nights, urban renewal in St Louis, MO and Alexandria, VA, the City Museum in St. Louis.
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